tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7424455025514893514.post1013641898812729220..comments2023-09-26T05:10:24.425-04:00Comments on Musings of a Discordian Yeshivah Bochur: God Is Not The Answershunah uporashhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15190230331500468097noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7424455025514893514.post-21043032979379583222013-08-15T00:09:01.859-04:002013-08-15T00:09:01.859-04:00Hi, out of politeness I feel compelled to say &quo...Hi, out of politeness I feel compelled to say "I hear what you're saying" but in reality, no, I have no clue what you are on about. I would recommend that you read my posts entitled "Can Judaism Be Reconciled With Science" (spoiler alert: the answer is no). I would go further and say that one of the chief goals of this blog is to make that point. <br /><br />In response to your Rambam quote, I want to raise two points: <br />1. The Rambam lived hundreds of years before science came around.<br />2. It has been my experience that those who attempt to reconcile Torah and science usually destroy at least one (if not both) of them. It is like forcing a round peg into a square hole, it doesn't work without destroying at least one (or both) of them.<br />shunah uporashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15190230331500468097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7424455025514893514.post-79109196340653497232013-08-01T17:23:11.901-04:002013-08-01T17:23:11.901-04:00I grew up as an atheist,became religious in my ear...I grew up as an atheist,became religious in my early twenties, tried different religion, converted to orthodox judaism.<br />But now in my early forties,after long research and deep doubt,I realizerealize that God and the evolution theory go very well together.<br />The Rambam himself said that if someone thinks that science contradicts Torah, it means that this person has no Torah or no Science. Only people who take the Torah,meaning the written Torah literally can not accept this fact.yoni the yogihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05719222967106768793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7424455025514893514.post-45160805298691283182013-07-20T16:13:14.949-04:002013-07-20T16:13:14.949-04:00sure, love the name btw :-)sure, love the name btw :-)shunah uporashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15190230331500468097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7424455025514893514.post-27271460930365565152013-07-18T20:37:38.148-04:002013-07-18T20:37:38.148-04:00SU - please check out this new blog and help get i...SU - please check out this new blog and help get it going by spreading the word.<br /><br />http://www.altercockerjewishatheist.blogspot.com/<br /><br />Thanks<br /><br />David Applehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02872534603220776882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7424455025514893514.post-51109696967288875102013-07-12T00:11:28.155-04:002013-07-12T00:11:28.155-04:00Shunah - you have hit one nail on the head. Many ...Shunah - you have hit one nail on the head. Many "Jewish" or "Non Jewish" proofs of god fall into this category.<br /><br />Some call it the god of the gaps. But you have added important insights as well.<br /><br />For example one jewish proof for god is jewish survival (whatever that means) implies a god. But there are many other plauasible explanations or maybe it was just luck. Why has the rat survived despite numerous attempts to eradicate it ? I know it must mean there must be a god of the rats. David Applehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02872534603220776882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7424455025514893514.post-61065026020162395452013-07-08T21:51:58.692-04:002013-07-08T21:51:58.692-04:00First of all, thanks for your response. Secondly I...First of all, thanks for your response. Secondly I would like to address your point with two different approaches. <br /><br />Firstly, if something is described as "inexplicable", that is usually more of a statement about the speaker than the phenomena. Calling something inexplicable either emphasizes their lack of knowledge of the explanation, or their lack of imagination to come up with one. That is not to say that every person must be able to explain everything, but to claim that since you cant explain something therefore it is inherently inexplicable borders on megalomaniacal, and is at the very least a mistaken approach.<br /><br />Secondly, and perhaps more importantly, I would like to point out that the point you raise is classic "argument from ignorance." The first half of your statement is a statement of ignorance (which in certain cases is the only honest position), however you then go from there to; therefore god... therefore supernatural... therefore whatever. <br /><br />You cannot go from "I don't know how" to "therefore I know that..." that is classic argument from ignorance. If you don't know, then you don't know; if you do know then you do, but your ignorance cannot lead to a statement about anything other than your ignorance. <br /><br />I hope that I have made my point clear, but in case I haven't please feel free to respond.shunah uporashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15190230331500468097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7424455025514893514.post-90759964102611152682013-07-08T15:11:16.658-04:002013-07-08T15:11:16.658-04:00I think what people mean when they respond with &q...I think what people mean when they respond with "god did it" is that it is inexplicable how it happened, thus it must have been done via a god/supernatural power.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com